AHA Council member Katharina Matro (Walter Johnson High School) joined documentarian Ken Burns in a conversation for TIME about teaching “complete history” in K–12 schools at a time when concerns about and legislation banning or limiting “divisive concepts” still dominate classrooms in many US states. “History is about learning how people make decisions in difficult or less difficult circumstances and then deciding . . . how would I have acted, what would I have done?” Matro said. “I think we can ask that question in all kinds of circumstances, and it gives us tools for making decisions ourselves and interrogating ourselves and holding ourselves accountable. And that’s what I would want students and children to take away from history education.”